For the record, this is not a commentary on anything going on with me right now. All is fine right now.
One of the things that has always been difficult for me as a service submissive is that most of us sincere ones fall into the category of "always there", which probably needs some explanation. Imagine yourself as a dominant woman. You have this service submissive who is loyal and will do practically everything you ask/tell him or her, and this goes on for awhile. Two sorts of things often happen that make it an interesting situation.
1. Proximity of finding what you are seeking (the sincere submissive already in your grasp) makes you feel that perhaps it might be easy to find someone just like that submissive but with extra bells and whistles. Maybe the next one is more attractive, wealthier, a different gender or whatever. So, you start going back out and exploring the multitudes of submissives out there, knowing that the statistics indicate that the odds are better for you finding what you are seeking rather than not finding what you are seeking. So, you find that more attractive one, bring him into your midst, and on the surface, it looks like you found what you were seeking. Then after a few months of fooling you, he or she reveals that he or she is not really exactly what you were seeking but was playing along in hopes of interjecting his or her personal fantasies (which don't fit the service paradigm you imagined). So you dump this new submissive to the road. And then you realize that the one who was what you were seeking is gone, and you kind of missed it while you were having so much fun with the one that was going to replace him or her.
2. When this service submissive comes into your life, you take complete advantage of him or her, and everything seems to be going all right. But you're a busy woman. You have lots of things on your dance card, so you continue doing what you're doing, and you're completely in bliss because you have this person who cooks, cleans and does everything else you desire. This gives you lots and lots of more time that you really didn't have before because you were more self-sufficient in the past, so you start to get out there in the scene even more. You attract many more players, and your dance card is filled even further. Then out of nowhere, you come home one day and the service submissive has been snatched up by another woman. And you never even suspected there was anything wrong. Oh sure, you heard him griping a bit about never seeing you, but you allowed him to show up and clean, even though you had to run off and attend a party, so "would it be okay if you locked up on your way out?" and other such things. You could trust him; I mean, he's been your dedicated house slave for months, if not years. But then he's gone, and you have no idea why. Obviously, he was not a "true" service submissive. Now you'll just have to look for another, or not look for one at all because the last one was obviously too much of a bother; I mean, he left without a warning.
What both scenarios actually signify is a sense that the service submissive is always going to be there, and if he's not, he's easily replaceable. Anyway, I've observed this a lot over the years, both with myself and with those around me. Yet, I keep seeing the exact same things happening no matter how much experience those in the scene have.
Anyway, just a thought for a Friday evening.
One of the things that has always been difficult for me as a service submissive is that most of us sincere ones fall into the category of "always there", which probably needs some explanation. Imagine yourself as a dominant woman. You have this service submissive who is loyal and will do practically everything you ask/tell him or her, and this goes on for awhile. Two sorts of things often happen that make it an interesting situation.
1. Proximity of finding what you are seeking (the sincere submissive already in your grasp) makes you feel that perhaps it might be easy to find someone just like that submissive but with extra bells and whistles. Maybe the next one is more attractive, wealthier, a different gender or whatever. So, you start going back out and exploring the multitudes of submissives out there, knowing that the statistics indicate that the odds are better for you finding what you are seeking rather than not finding what you are seeking. So, you find that more attractive one, bring him into your midst, and on the surface, it looks like you found what you were seeking. Then after a few months of fooling you, he or she reveals that he or she is not really exactly what you were seeking but was playing along in hopes of interjecting his or her personal fantasies (which don't fit the service paradigm you imagined). So you dump this new submissive to the road. And then you realize that the one who was what you were seeking is gone, and you kind of missed it while you were having so much fun with the one that was going to replace him or her.
2. When this service submissive comes into your life, you take complete advantage of him or her, and everything seems to be going all right. But you're a busy woman. You have lots of things on your dance card, so you continue doing what you're doing, and you're completely in bliss because you have this person who cooks, cleans and does everything else you desire. This gives you lots and lots of more time that you really didn't have before because you were more self-sufficient in the past, so you start to get out there in the scene even more. You attract many more players, and your dance card is filled even further. Then out of nowhere, you come home one day and the service submissive has been snatched up by another woman. And you never even suspected there was anything wrong. Oh sure, you heard him griping a bit about never seeing you, but you allowed him to show up and clean, even though you had to run off and attend a party, so "would it be okay if you locked up on your way out?" and other such things. You could trust him; I mean, he's been your dedicated house slave for months, if not years. But then he's gone, and you have no idea why. Obviously, he was not a "true" service submissive. Now you'll just have to look for another, or not look for one at all because the last one was obviously too much of a bother; I mean, he left without a warning.
What both scenarios actually signify is a sense that the service submissive is always going to be there, and if he's not, he's easily replaceable. Anyway, I've observed this a lot over the years, both with myself and with those around me. Yet, I keep seeing the exact same things happening no matter how much experience those in the scene have.
Anyway, just a thought for a Friday evening.
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Re: Service Submissive who are "always there"
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:52 AMActually I don't think this is just within our lifestyle. I think this is more a normal part of regular life. If something is comfortable, and easy..often people take it for granted, be it a partner or a sub.
Interesting thoughts, and I also find this to be true.
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Re: Service Submissive who are "always there"
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:12 PMI certainly can NOT say that you're wrong! Luckily I was at a Dominants round table at a kink conference and the Moderator's main topic was "How you got your sub, is how you'll keep your sub" And it's true! Thanks for the reminder, Duane
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Re: Service Submissive who are "always there"
Mon, November 26, 2007 - 9:37 AMi find that the statements are TRUE to some extent. i was with Master Mark in the Seattle area for 4 years. i was expected to do all the basics, cooking, cleaning, keeping the yard and a BJ a couple times a week. He didn't consider my needs, not to say i had many. It finally came to a point where i was empty inside. i gave and gave to him until my fuel tank, those emotional and physical reserves that all service submissives have that they call upon when needed, was empty. With nothing to give i had to "protect the property", i had to leave.
In defense of submissives, this may be what happens in most cases, even though they may not think of it in that way. Having talked to many submissives, as a whole we don't have many needs but the needs are paramount to our happiness and in affect our effectiveness. i have heard submissives say "my Dom/Domme takes me for granted" and it breaks my heart. Complacency, when dealing with another human being is rife with dangers, as far as the relationship is concerned.
Thank you for listening.
most humbly
slavemichael
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Re: Service Submissive who are "always there"
Tue, December 11, 2007 - 12:23 AMWell stated! ; >
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Re: Service Submissive who are "always there"
Tue, December 11, 2007 - 9:48 AMWhat you're describing may be accurate in some cases, since human beings often do take things for granted. However, there are some things implied in your scenarios that I feel obliged to point out.
First of all, submissives are just as prone to unrealistic expectations of their parters as dominants. There are submissives who think that the world should revolve around them. Of *course* a submissive needs to have his/her needs met, but there are certainly people who think they're low maintenance when the exact opposite is true.
Secondly, submissives have just as much of an obligation to communicate their needs and desires as the dominant partner does. In your scenarios, you describe two situations in which the submissive partner "just vanished." Where is the talk about unfulfilled needs? Where is the request for more time, attention, or training? Where is the relationship negotiation?
So, I'm not saying you're wrong, or that the situations you described can't happen. I'm just pointing out that real life is complicated, and that individuals (regardless of BDSM orientation) can't abdicate their personal responsibility to communicate.
If relationships were easy, we'd all be living "happily ever after" already. :) -
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Re: Service Submissive who are "always there"
Tue, December 11, 2007 - 11:39 AMThis all goes back to communicate, communicate, communicate. The mouth that does not ask does not get fed, etc etc. Both parties are responsible for checking in with the other in regards to how the relationship is going as well as giving feedback. It's not really that different from a "vanilla" relationship.
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Re: Service Submissive who are "always there"
Fri, February 8, 2008 - 2:08 AMYou know, I was worried about being the Domme in these scenarios. When I found a service submissive who was willing to do housework and ferry me around, I felt concerned that the time I'd be able to offer back might not be enough.
We sat down an made a month long contract, with some guidelines about scene time and an agreement to explore the contract again at the end of the month. It was fantastic, because it gave him time to see if the time I was able to offer was enough, and a place for him to ask for more time, or to say it was great the way it was.
A happy service submissive is a service submissive who works harder, in my experience on both sides of the tea tray!